er yahweh en mand eller intetkøn?
er kommet i tvivl da der er to skabelsesberetninger 🙂
JHVH?
Hej,
Det er der ingen der ved. Der er heller ingen der ved, hvem Gud er. Det kunne godt se ud til, at der er flere der gør måske again, måske elsker-vejen, men det gør de ikke.
Jeg har spurgt, men ingen har svaret endnu.
Så du kan godt gå ud fra, at ingen ved det. Måske ved jeg det.
Venlig hilsen
Ven af Sandheden.
Det er der ingen der ved. Der er heller ingen der ved, hvem Gud er. Det kunne godt se ud til, at der er flere der gør måske again, måske elsker-vejen, men det gør de ikke.
Jeg har spurgt, men ingen har svaret endnu.
Så du kan godt gå ud fra, at ingen ved det. Måske ved jeg det.
Venlig hilsen
Ven af Sandheden.
Tja
Traditionelt regnes JHVH jo for at være hankøn, ligesom de fleste af de navne der tillægges JHVH er hankøn. Men jeg kan da huske at en eller anden rabbi (tror jeg han var) havde en teori om, at ordet i virkeligheden skulle læses baglæns (altså i den læseretning vi danskere læser i). Så kan vokalerne lyder som de hebraiske ord for han-hun, hvilket skulle indikere at JHVH er både hankøn og hunkøn. Jeg husker desværre ikke hvad han hedder, men det giver da god mening til at Gud skabte mennesket i sit billede som mand og kvinde....
Fandt ham
http://ntwrong.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/rabbi-solves-mystery-of-the-divine-name-yhwh-goes-both-ways/ Hvis du googler lidt videre på navnet, kan du sikkert få alle hans ræssonnementer at se.
Hedenskab
Det er utroligt som denne debat hele tiden via again drejer ”hjulet” 180 grader? Nu denne forestilling om Gud hankøn og hunkøn.
Man kunne forestille sig så meget nå man villigt lader sig lede (forlede) som Bibelen nævner flere eksempler på og hvorledes her den ene gang efter den anden sker en form for harmonisering.
Den ”afstandtagen” medføre en ny form for harmonisering, men med Kana`anaiske gudefilosofier.
In some cases, such as the "Sacred Marriage" of the king of a Sumerian city-state and the High Priestess of Inanna, it served a more practical purpose: since commoners frequently took this opportunity to have sex with their own spouses, it coordinated the births of children so that they would be born in the winter, when there was more time to take care of them.
A possible modern example of hierogamy is in the religion of Wicca, in which participants engage in what is called the Great Rite. Most often done on Beltane night (May 1), a man and a woman, assuming the identities of God and Goddess, engage in sexual intercourse to celebrate the union of the deities as lovers and the conception of the new God who will be born at Yule. It is essentially a fertility rite, meant to symbolize the planting of seed into Mother Earth, which will come to fruition in the autumn.
The Great Rite is more often celebrated in a purely symbolic context within Wicca and Neo-Paganism where a ritual dagger is placed point first into a challice, symbolizing the divine union of the Hieros gamos. This symbolic rite is practiced at many Sabbats and Esbats.
It is furthermore one of the themes that Carl Jung dealt with, in his book Symbols of Transformation.
The etymology is from Greek: "hieros" = holy and "gamos" = marriage, coupling.
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God thus becomes a dual-gendered deity, bringing together all the male and female energy in the universe, the yin and the yang that have divided the sexes from Adam and Eve to Homer and Marge.
Vi har vist hver vores opfattelse og kilder og jeg vil godt citere din ”kilde”.
“This is the kind of God I believe in, the kind of God that makes sense to me, in a language that speaks very, very deeply to human aspirations and striving,” Sameth said. “How could God be male and not female?”
Citat af again ”kilde” slut.
Kommentar: Homer & Marge? Ja, hvor lavt kan man egentlig talt synke? Så forstår jeg mange ”ting” meget bedre efterhånden.
Homer & Margeperformed by Al Yankovic
NOTE: The first 2 paragraphs were performed during the episode and the rest during the credits.
Lyrics:
Little ditty
'Bout Homer and Marge
Her heart was as big
As his stomach was large
Oh yeah
They say love goes on
Long after the grilled cheese sandwich is gone
That's the story
'Bout Homer and Marge
Two folks I helped out
For a nominal charge
After Homer went gay
They patched up their schism
But the dude never dealt with
His alcoholism
Weird Al sayin'...
Oh yeah
The credits go on
Long after the viewer's interest is gone
Oh yeah
Weird Al had fun on this show
Even if it was just a brief cameo
Homer & Marge is, as of now, officially unreleased.
The song was originally performed on the television series "The Simpsons" in the episode "Three Gays Of The Condo" (episode 1417, production EABF12).
The episode originally aired on Sunday, April 13, 2003.
It is a parody of "Jack & Diane" by John Mellencamp with original lyrics by the staff of "The Simpsons" and was performed by "Weird Al" Yankovic.
Citat slut.
Kommentar:
Ingen ved hvem Gud er.
Venlig hilsen
Ven af Sandheden.
Man kunne forestille sig så meget nå man villigt lader sig lede (forlede) som Bibelen nævner flere eksempler på og hvorledes her den ene gang efter den anden sker en form for harmonisering.
Den ”afstandtagen” medføre en ny form for harmonisering, men med Kana`anaiske gudefilosofier.
In some cases, such as the "Sacred Marriage" of the king of a Sumerian city-state and the High Priestess of Inanna, it served a more practical purpose: since commoners frequently took this opportunity to have sex with their own spouses, it coordinated the births of children so that they would be born in the winter, when there was more time to take care of them.
A possible modern example of hierogamy is in the religion of Wicca, in which participants engage in what is called the Great Rite. Most often done on Beltane night (May 1), a man and a woman, assuming the identities of God and Goddess, engage in sexual intercourse to celebrate the union of the deities as lovers and the conception of the new God who will be born at Yule. It is essentially a fertility rite, meant to symbolize the planting of seed into Mother Earth, which will come to fruition in the autumn.
The Great Rite is more often celebrated in a purely symbolic context within Wicca and Neo-Paganism where a ritual dagger is placed point first into a challice, symbolizing the divine union of the Hieros gamos. This symbolic rite is practiced at many Sabbats and Esbats.
It is furthermore one of the themes that Carl Jung dealt with, in his book Symbols of Transformation.
The etymology is from Greek: "hieros" = holy and "gamos" = marriage, coupling.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
God thus becomes a dual-gendered deity, bringing together all the male and female energy in the universe, the yin and the yang that have divided the sexes from Adam and Eve to Homer and Marge.
Vi har vist hver vores opfattelse og kilder og jeg vil godt citere din ”kilde”.
“This is the kind of God I believe in, the kind of God that makes sense to me, in a language that speaks very, very deeply to human aspirations and striving,” Sameth said. “How could God be male and not female?”
Citat af again ”kilde” slut.
Kommentar: Homer & Marge? Ja, hvor lavt kan man egentlig talt synke? Så forstår jeg mange ”ting” meget bedre efterhånden.
Homer & Margeperformed by Al Yankovic
NOTE: The first 2 paragraphs were performed during the episode and the rest during the credits.
Lyrics:
Little ditty
'Bout Homer and Marge
Her heart was as big
As his stomach was large
Oh yeah
They say love goes on
Long after the grilled cheese sandwich is gone
That's the story
'Bout Homer and Marge
Two folks I helped out
For a nominal charge
After Homer went gay
They patched up their schism
But the dude never dealt with
His alcoholism
Weird Al sayin'...
Oh yeah
The credits go on
Long after the viewer's interest is gone
Oh yeah
Weird Al had fun on this show
Even if it was just a brief cameo
Homer & Marge is, as of now, officially unreleased.
The song was originally performed on the television series "The Simpsons" in the episode "Three Gays Of The Condo" (episode 1417, production EABF12).
The episode originally aired on Sunday, April 13, 2003.
It is a parody of "Jack & Diane" by John Mellencamp with original lyrics by the staff of "The Simpsons" and was performed by "Weird Al" Yankovic.
Citat slut.
Kommentar:
Ingen ved hvem Gud er.
Venlig hilsen
Ven af Sandheden.
mange tak i to
men det lyder nu lidt for mig som om at han vil gøre gud intetkøn, fordi det snakker til ham.
“This is the kind of God I believe in, the kind of God that makes sense to me, in a language that speaks very, very deeply to human aspirations and striving,” Sameth said. “How could God be male and not female?”
foresten, ved du hvad der menes med dette?
"Now that’s been solved, what will Madonna and the other kabbalists do? And where did the alephs go?"
Hvad mener han med kabbalisterne?
“This is the kind of God I believe in, the kind of God that makes sense to me, in a language that speaks very, very deeply to human aspirations and striving,” Sameth said. “How could God be male and not female?”
foresten, ved du hvad der menes med dette?
"Now that’s been solved, what will Madonna and the other kabbalists do? And where did the alephs go?"
Hvad mener han med kabbalisterne?
Endnu engang putter du mine meninger hen hvor du VaS
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... mener de hører til - Men jeg har en klar mening om, at Bibelens Gud er Bibelens Gud -
Manden er ejeren af huset, dertil hører indbo, børn, kvinder og fæ - derfor har man
personificeret Gud i Bibelen i Mandens billede, da kvinder var = ejendom - Det er denne
Gud vi debatterer - Ikke den Gud der eksisterer eller ikke eksisterer og på hvilke vilkår!
Men eksisterer der noget der muligvis kan tituleres som noget GUDDOMMELIGT, er det et væsen der
går langt ud over den smule forstand, vi i dag udnytter af den menneskelige hjernes egentlige kapacitet.
Med venlig hilsen
jalmar
... mener de hører til - Men jeg har en klar mening om, at Bibelens Gud er Bibelens Gud -
Manden er ejeren af huset, dertil hører indbo, børn, kvinder og fæ - derfor har man
personificeret Gud i Bibelen i Mandens billede, da kvinder var = ejendom - Det er denne
Gud vi debatterer - Ikke den Gud der eksisterer eller ikke eksisterer og på hvilke vilkår!
Men eksisterer der noget der muligvis kan tituleres som noget GUDDOMMELIGT, er det et væsen der
går langt ud over den smule forstand, vi i dag udnytter af den menneskelige hjernes egentlige kapacitet.
Med venlig hilsen
jalmar
Jeg tror nu
at vedkommende er en sort kvinde eller hermafrodit😃. Kønnet kan vel være ligegyldigt, at jeg mener, at vedkommende skal dømmes på sine handlinger og ikke sit køn(irrelevant).
MalteFnalte
MalteFnalte
tak for det
ja det ser da ud til der er mange mange forskellige ideer om hvordan gud er. Men for mig lyder det nu som om alle teorier mangler et eller andet :-)
god dag til dig
vh
god dag til dig
vh