Kære Lyjse, du kan være helt siker på følgende: Jeg ville aldrig erstatte Kristendommen som den gives os i Evangelierne og Apostlenes breve med nogen form for menneskelig visdom.
Tak for din hilsen. Glædelig midsommer til dig også og til resten af debatten. Håber alle har fået nyt mod og glæde og lyst til det kommende ”år” der således igen kulminere den 23.dec. 2009.
Nej, jeg tænkte ikke lige på Martinus. Jeg kender kun sporadisk til ham og jeg er godt klar over at han ser tingene ud fra en mere Buddhistisk synsvinkel.
Det er muligt, at han afvises i Kristne kredse, men det vil jeg nu ikke gøre. Jeg ser derimod klart, at han følger en anden exergese i henhold til sine betragtninger om livet og menneskenes handlinger og den filosofi han drager.
Han skriver f.eks. (fra dit link):
Men sygdommenes bekæmpelse i verden er ikke et tilgivelsesspørgsmål. Befrielse fra sygdom såvel som fra al anden lidelse er et helt andet spørgsmål, nemlig det vigtigste og største spørgsmål i hele tilværelsen. Al befrielse fra lidelse er udelukkende et "fuldkommengørelsesspørgsmål".
Uden lidelseserfaringer ville intet som helst menneske kunne befries fra de dyriske anlæg og traditioner og blive til et virkeligt fuldkomment væsen eller til "mennesket i Guds billede". Lidelser afføder den største og mest guddommelige evne i mennesket, nemlig den humane sans. Denne sans kan ikke tilegnes hverken ved visdom eller intelligens.
Alt eftersom man igennem lidelserne, som altså er det absolut eneste, der kan afføde nævnte humane sans, får tilegnet sig den, kan den intellektualiseres eller gøres logisk ved hjælp af intelligens, visdom og vejledning. Denne guddommelige evne, som er det samme som den for den fuldkomne menneskelige tilværelse livsbetingende "næstekærlighed", kan altså ikke tilegnes ved intelligens, men blot administreres ved hjælp af den, når man først har tilegnet sig den.
Citat slut.
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Ja, det var så hans vurdering, men jeg opfatter det som en vurdering udelukkende set ud fra et videnskabelig synsvinkel og så hans filosofiske forklaring.
I sammenhæng med Kristendommen vil jeg så sige, at han ser tingene ud fra sin egen synsvinkel og skaber sin egen filosofi, medens vi kristne udelukkende ”forklare” tingene ud fra en åndelig synsvinkel.
Jeg vil ikke afvise Martinus, men kunne ikke drømme om at erstatte Jesus åndelige lære med Marinus` s åndsvidenskab.
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Her er hvad jeg selv forstår:
Hvis man gerne vil ”skyde genvej” til forståelsen for ”Det elektriske menneske”, så kan man vælge at slå op på Internettet på følgende søgeord: ”electricity in human brain”.
Så vil du med det samme blive præsenteret for mange eksempler på hvordan det menneskelige legeme fungere.
Jeg vil tage dette eksempel frem fordi det klart fortæller ”det Elektriske menneskes” historie.
http://people.clarkson.edu/~ekatz/scientists/aldini_paper.pdf
The capacity of certain animals to generate electricity was known and exploited in the healing arts since antiquity. For
example, Scribonius Largus (fl. c. 14-54 AD) in ancient Rome used shocks produced by electric rays to treat a wide variety of
illnesses, including headache, gout and different types of paralyses.
Scribonius Lagus i det første årh. efter vor tidsregning i det gamle Rom, kendte til og brugte elektriske chok til at behandle forskellige sygdomme. Han var altså klar over sammenhængen mellem det menneskelige legeme og hjernens aktivitet i forholdet til legemets reaktioner.
Her kan du læse lidt om ham:
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/aconite/largus.html
Jerome (det var ham der bekendte Marias jomfruelighed og faktisk fasttømrede ideen om jomfruelighed før ægteskab).
"Hippocrates, before he will teach his pupils, makes them take an oath and compels them to swear fealty to him. He binds them over to silence, and prescribes for them their language, their gait, their dress, their manners.
How much more reason have we to whom the medicine of the soul has been committed to love the houses of all Christians as our own homes."
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> Compositiones ed. Georgius Helmreich, Scribonii Largi Conpositiones (Leipzig: Teubner, 1887).< (historikeren)
The therapeutic use of electricity was facilitated by the advent of the Leyden jar – the first electricity storage device
– in the middle of the 18th century.
Later on, the famous Swiss physiologist Albrecht von Haller (1708-1777) insisted on the fact that various human body tissues, principally nerves and muscles, were sensitive to stimulation by electricity.11 Several scientists of this period agreed that nerve and muscles were made of highly excitable tissues but, in contrast to Galvani, they did not believe that electricity played a role in their normal functioning.
Also at odds with Galvani’s concept of animal electricity is the notion of animal magnetism, advocated by the German
physician Franz Anton Mesmer (1734-1815).
Mesmer, whose medical dissertation dealt with the influence of the planets on the human body, believed that all living beings are interconnected by a universal magnetic force, a sort of fluid that had to flow harmoniously throughout the body to ensure health and strength.
During the course of very popular public sessions that were held first in Vienna and later in Paris, Mesmer used magnets, electrodes and other devices to restore the flow of the magnetic fluid within the body of patients who suffered from
disorders as varied as hysteria and blindness.
However, the concept of animal magnetism or mesmerism did not survive the severe but lucid report of the commission of the French Academy of Sciences that was established in 1784 by Louis XVI to evaluate Mesmer’s practice.
The commission’s report contains the following sentence that is quite revealing of the general tone of the document: “Animal magnetism may exist without being useful, but it cannot be useful if it does not exist.”
In contrast to the notion of animal electricity, the concept of animal magnetism did not contribute at all to the advancement of knowledge about neural transmission. In all fairness, however, it must be said that Mesmer’s work led, through a large series of indirect links, to the development of hypnosis, which was used and abused by several neurologists at the end of the 19th century.
To our knowledge, there is no evidence that Galvani or Aldini ever met with Mesmer, whose work was published well before that of the two Italian scientists. However, Aldini was well aware of Mesmer’s contribution, which he regarded as pure charlatanism.
In 1791, most scientists received Galvani’s results with great enthusiasm, including Alessandro Volta (1745-1827) from Pavia, who congratulated Galvani for his elegant series of experiments.
However, Volta became rapidly critical about the way Galvani interpreted his results. He argued that, instead of demonstrating
the existence of intrinsic animal electricity (elettricità animale), the muscle contractions observed by Galvani were the result of electricity generated by two dissimilar metals (elettricità metallica).
Volta later used this concept to create his famous electric pile, for which he is still remembered today. Indeed, in many experiments performed by Galvani, the frog muscle preparations were hanging on a brass hook and muscle contractions were most easily elicited when the hook was deliberately pressed against an iron railing. Volta believed that Galvani had shown that electricity can be a powerful stimulus for nerves and muscles – a concept that was already accepted at that time – but did not prove that muscles contract because of electricity intrinsic to the body.
A major fight between the School of Bologna and that of Pavia ensued and the whole issue remained unsettled until the beginning of the 20th century.
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Nu skal jeg ikke trætte dig med flere henvisninger, men kun sige at ”Det elektriske menneske” er et faktum.
Det betyder så, at der er en elektrisk funktion i det menneskelige legeme der overhovedet ikke kan hverken undværes eller bortforklares eller afvises.
Mennesket er ét stort batteri, der fungere nøjagtigt som ethvert andet batteri. I den historiske gennemgang er der særligt et par navne der går igen som du kender.
Alessandro Volta, Louigi Galvani. Altså Volta og Galvani.
Nu er der så det ved det, at som det er påvist fysisk således også psykisk.
Venlig hilsen
Ven af Sandheden.