Forskelligt nyt fra JV-verdenen
Da jeg har fået denne samtale pr. mail, kan jeg desværre ikke linke til den. Men indholdet burde heller ikke få os ikke JV'ere til at tvivle på, at det er sandfærdigt nok. JV'erne tvivler jo på alt hvad vi skriver. Og dog, indeholder samtalen emner, JV selv kan tjekke.
Men ganske interessant nu hvor der er en del debat om Jesus. Phil der åbenbart er et vidne fortæller at der står i det sidste nye Vågn op, at Jesus bliver kaldt en ånd guided af Gud, noted at det kommer længere væk fra Guds lære om Kristus i Biblen, som om at det styrende råd bare vil sætte Kristus på samme level som dem selv, istedet for over dem.
Rick Fearon fortæller at De tror at Vagttårns Organisationen er død. Brooklyn ejendomme bliver solgt, rigssale er sammenpressede; Der er stor forvirring over doktriner; Måske millioner besøger websider på internettet.
Der udover fortælles der at Vagttårnet er blevet mere kontrollerende (troede jeg ikke kunne lade sig gøre), den nye brochure fortæller, hvordan man skal klæ´sig, når man besøger Bethel. Holde folk inde på stævnerne, have et sæt regler for at prøve at holde folk inde i rigssalene. Rådgiver dem de mener spiser for meget og dermed er overvægtige. Er så kontrollerende og regelsættende. Flere ser tråden. Når en forlader, følger flere efter.
Det er et selvstyrende samfund. Det ødelægger det for individualister, incl. selvmord, ødelagte ægteskaber, (dicplased) børn, psykiske syge. Skoler, jobs ect. er sat på hold af organisationen. Nogen siger at det er en dødbringende organisation, op til 9000 dør om året pga deres blodtransfusions politik. Nogen tror at når de kvitter Vagttårnet, vil deres åndelig liv eller kraft blive tappet, gør dem modvillige over at gå.
Men dem som går, kan få et endnu tættere forhold til Jesus Kristus.Nogen har været så misbrugt i Vagttårnet at de føler de løsriver sig fra al religion og behøver rådgivning eller ændre opførsel.
Phil --------, a Ministerial Servant, from Massachusetts answered. He said the latest Awake! calls Jesus a spirit guided by God, noted that that is getting farther way from God’s teaching about Christ in the Bible itself, as if the Governing Body just want to put Christ on a level with themselves instead of above them.
RICK FEARON SPEAKING: Tonight’s speaker is a behavior specialist; also Bob Gray also called Doc Bob. We believe the Watchtower organization is dead; Brooklyn properties are being sold, congregations are compressing; there is great confusion over doctrines; possibly millions are visiting websites on the internet.
Sixscreensofthewatchtower.com has a statistical increase; other exJW websites also report increased visits. Many newbies are coming in. So we believe the Mass Exodus has begun. (Nogen der kan fortælle mig, hvad Mass Exodus betyder)?
What’s the Watchtower doing? Becoming more controlling. Recent new brochure is on how to dress when visiting Bethel . Are keeping people inside conventions; have set of rules in Kingdom Ministry to try to hold people in. Are giving counsel on heavier ones, those they think are eating too much. Are so controlling and legalistic. More are seeing the trend. When you see one flaw you can better see a number of others. One flaw leads to another.
It’s a self-contained society. It wrecks damage on individuals including suicides, broken marriages, displaced children, mental illness. Schools, jobs etc are put on hold by the organization. Some say it is a lethal organization, up to nine thousand a year die from lack of blood transfusions. Some think when they quit the Watchtower their spiritual life or vigor will be zapped, making them reluctant to leave.
But those leaving can get an even closer relationship with Christ. Some have been so abused in the Watchtower they feel detached from all religion and need a counselor or behavioral modification.
Håber linkene virker.
http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED12%20Apr%202008%2010%3A03%3A14%3A610
http://www.mydesert.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080328/NEWS08/80328009/1263/update
http://www.pe.com/localnews/rivcounty/stories/PE_News_Local_H_faith26.4193557.html
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uhbwwe0nn1I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jen9H3jbqtI&feature=related
Hilsen Manjana
tavse-vidner.dk
Men ganske interessant nu hvor der er en del debat om Jesus. Phil der åbenbart er et vidne fortæller at der står i det sidste nye Vågn op, at Jesus bliver kaldt en ånd guided af Gud, noted at det kommer længere væk fra Guds lære om Kristus i Biblen, som om at det styrende råd bare vil sætte Kristus på samme level som dem selv, istedet for over dem.
Rick Fearon fortæller at De tror at Vagttårns Organisationen er død. Brooklyn ejendomme bliver solgt, rigssale er sammenpressede; Der er stor forvirring over doktriner; Måske millioner besøger websider på internettet.
Der udover fortælles der at Vagttårnet er blevet mere kontrollerende (troede jeg ikke kunne lade sig gøre), den nye brochure fortæller, hvordan man skal klæ´sig, når man besøger Bethel. Holde folk inde på stævnerne, have et sæt regler for at prøve at holde folk inde i rigssalene. Rådgiver dem de mener spiser for meget og dermed er overvægtige. Er så kontrollerende og regelsættende. Flere ser tråden. Når en forlader, følger flere efter.
Det er et selvstyrende samfund. Det ødelægger det for individualister, incl. selvmord, ødelagte ægteskaber, (dicplased) børn, psykiske syge. Skoler, jobs ect. er sat på hold af organisationen. Nogen siger at det er en dødbringende organisation, op til 9000 dør om året pga deres blodtransfusions politik. Nogen tror at når de kvitter Vagttårnet, vil deres åndelig liv eller kraft blive tappet, gør dem modvillige over at gå.
Men dem som går, kan få et endnu tættere forhold til Jesus Kristus.Nogen har været så misbrugt i Vagttårnet at de føler de løsriver sig fra al religion og behøver rådgivning eller ændre opførsel.
Phil --------, a Ministerial Servant, from Massachusetts answered. He said the latest Awake! calls Jesus a spirit guided by God, noted that that is getting farther way from God’s teaching about Christ in the Bible itself, as if the Governing Body just want to put Christ on a level with themselves instead of above them.
RICK FEARON SPEAKING: Tonight’s speaker is a behavior specialist; also Bob Gray also called Doc Bob. We believe the Watchtower organization is dead; Brooklyn properties are being sold, congregations are compressing; there is great confusion over doctrines; possibly millions are visiting websites on the internet.
Sixscreensofthewatchtower.com has a statistical increase; other exJW websites also report increased visits. Many newbies are coming in. So we believe the Mass Exodus has begun. (Nogen der kan fortælle mig, hvad Mass Exodus betyder)?
What’s the Watchtower doing? Becoming more controlling. Recent new brochure is on how to dress when visiting Bethel . Are keeping people inside conventions; have set of rules in Kingdom Ministry to try to hold people in. Are giving counsel on heavier ones, those they think are eating too much. Are so controlling and legalistic. More are seeing the trend. When you see one flaw you can better see a number of others. One flaw leads to another.
It’s a self-contained society. It wrecks damage on individuals including suicides, broken marriages, displaced children, mental illness. Schools, jobs etc are put on hold by the organization. Some say it is a lethal organization, up to nine thousand a year die from lack of blood transfusions. Some think when they quit the Watchtower their spiritual life or vigor will be zapped, making them reluctant to leave.
But those leaving can get an even closer relationship with Christ. Some have been so abused in the Watchtower they feel detached from all religion and need a counselor or behavioral modification.
Håber linkene virker.
http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED12%20Apr%202008%2010%3A03%3A14%3A610
http://www.mydesert.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080328/NEWS08/80328009/1263/update
http://www.pe.com/localnews/rivcounty/stories/PE_News_Local_H_faith26.4193557.html
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uhbwwe0nn1I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jen9H3jbqtI&feature=related
Hilsen Manjana
tavse-vidner.dk