Min mor er en ko.
Det si'r Jannu.
Min mor er en ko.
Er det ikke kun et dyr der vil behandle hunden som en ven, mens han sender koen, der giver mælk og derfor er hans mor, til slagteriet? Hvad er jeres svar til dette? Dette er min anklage mod jeres land. Hvad er jeres svar?
-Srila Prabhupada fra et foredrag fra Srimad Bhagavatam 2.3.19
-- Los Angeles, June 14, 1972
-Srila Prabhupada fra et foredrag fra Srimad Bhagavatam 2.3.19
-- Los Angeles, June 14, 1972
Du vælger selv dine kæledyr
Du er jo også barn af jorden, men du lever alligevellet af jorden, det er jo også helt okay.
nu tror du at du er barn af koen, så er det også på den samme måde okay at leve af den.
men nu tror vi altså ikke på at koen er vores mor, nok får vi mælk fra koen, men det er ikke ens betydende med at det er vores mor.
Ved du hvordan man får mælk fra en ko? andet end man malker den, jo du tager kalven væk fra koen af og forsætter med at mælke den, så den tror at dens kalv stadigt behøver dens mælk.
så det du i virkeligheden gør er at stjæle noget der var til egnet kalven. syndes du så det er helt okay? nu hvor du gerne vil snakke om moral her?
nu tror du at du er barn af koen, så er det også på den samme måde okay at leve af den.
men nu tror vi altså ikke på at koen er vores mor, nok får vi mælk fra koen, men det er ikke ens betydende med at det er vores mor.
Ved du hvordan man får mælk fra en ko? andet end man malker den, jo du tager kalven væk fra koen af og forsætter med at mælke den, så den tror at dens kalv stadigt behøver dens mælk.
så det du i virkeligheden gør er at stjæle noget der var til egnet kalven. syndes du så det er helt okay? nu hvor du gerne vil snakke om moral her?
Du vælger selv din skæbne
En eller anden tumbe skrev: "Ved du hvordan man får mælk fra en ko? andet end man malker den, jo du tager kalven væk fra koen af og forsætter med at mælke den, så den tror at dens kalv stadigt behøver dens mælk.så det du i virkeligheden gør er at stjæle noget der var til egnet kalven. syndes du så det er helt okay? nu hvor du gerne vil snakke om moral her?"
Krishna har arrangeret det så fint, at en ko producerer meget mere mælk end hendes kalv kan drikke.
-- men, men en ko er da bare et kødstativ, så vi kan få nogle saftige bøffer på bordet.
HOW TO WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH A MEAT EATER
The New York Times, Tuesday, June 20, 1989
The Hunger Argument
Number of people worldwide who will die of starvation this year: 60 million.
Number of people who could be adequately fed with the grain saved if Americans reduced their intake of meat by 10 perc.: 60 million
Human beings in America: 243 million
Number of people who could be fed with grain and soybeans now eaten by U.S. livestock: 1.3 billion
Percentage of corn grown in the U.S. eaten by people: 20
Percentage of corn grown in the U.S. eaten by livestock: 80
Percentage of oats grown in the U.S. eaten by livestock: 95
Percentage of protein waste by cycling grain through livestock: 99
How frequently a child starves to death: every 2 seconds
Pounds of potatoes that can be grown on an acre: 20.OOO
Pounds of beef produced on an acre: 165
Percentage of U.S. farmland devoted to beef production: 56
Pounds of grain and soybeans needed to produce a pound of beef: 16
The Environmental Argument
Cause of global warming: greenhouse effect
Primary cause of greenhouse effect: carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels.
Fossil fuels needed to produce a meat-centered diet vs. a meat-free diet: 50 times more
Percentage of U.S. topsoil lost to date: 75
Percentage of U.S. topsoil loss directly related to livestock raising: 85
Number of acres of U.S. forest cleared for cropland to produce meat-centered diet: 260 million
Amount of meat U.S. imports annually from Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Panama: 200 million pounds
Average per capita meat consumption in Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Panama: less than eaten by average U.S. housecat.
Area of tropical rainforest consumed in every 1/4 pound hamburger: 55 sq.ft.
Current rate of species extinction due to destruction of tropical rainforests for meat grazing and other uses: 1.000 per year
The Cancer Argument
Increased risk of breast cancer for women who eat meat 4 times a week vs. less than once a week: 4 times
For women who eat eggs daily vs. less than once a week: 3 times
Increased risk of fatal ovarian cancer for women who eat eggs 3 or more times a week vs. less than once a week: 3 times
Increased risk of fatal prostate cancer for men who eat meat daily vs. sparingly or not at all: 3.6 times
The Natural Resources Argument
Use of more than half of all water used for all purposes in the U.S.: livestock portion.
Amount of water used in production of the average steer: sufficient to float a destroyer.
Gallons to produce a pound of wheat: 25
Gallons to produce a pound of meat: 2.500
Cost of common hamburger if water used by meat industry was not subsidized by the U.S. taxpayer: 35 dollars a pound
Current cost of pound of protein from beefsteak, if water was no longer subsidized: 89 dollars
Years the world's known oil reserves would last if every human ate a meat-centered diet: 13
Years they would last if human beings no longer ate meat: 260
Barrels of oil imported into U.S. daily: 6.8 million
Percentage of fossil fuel returned as food energy by most efficient factory farming of meat: 34.5
Percentage returned from least efficient plant food: 32.8
Percentage of raw materials consumed by U.S. to produce present meat-centered diet: 33
The Cholesterol Argument
Number of U.S. medical schools: 125
Number requiring a course in nutrition: 30
Nutrition training received by average U.S. physician during four years in medical school: 25 hours
Most common cause of death in U.S.: heart attack
How frequently a heart attack kills in U.S.: every 45 seconds
Average U.S. man's risk of death from heart attack: 50 perc.
Risk for average U.S. man who avoids the meat-centered diet: 15 perc.
Meat industry claims you should not be concerned about your blood
cholesterol if it is: normal
Your risk of dying of a disease caused by clogged arteries if your blood cholesterol is 'normal': over 50 perc.
The Antibiotic Argument
Percentage of U.S. antibiotics fed to livestock: 55
Percentage of staphylococci infections resistant to penicillin in 1960: 13
Percentage resistant in 1988: 91
Response of European Economic Community to routine feeding of
antibiotics to livestock: ban
Response of U.S. meat and pharmaceutical industries to routine feeding of antibiotics to livestock: full and complete support
The Pesticide Argument
Percentage of pesticide residues in the U.S. diet supplied by grains: 1
Percentage of pesticide residues in the U.S. diet supplied by fruits: 4
Percentage of pesticide residues in the U.S. diet suppl. by dairy products: 23
Percentage of pesticide residues in the U.S. diet supplied by meat: 55
Pesticide contamination of breast milk from meat-eating mothers vs. non meat-eating: 35 times higher
What USDA tells us: meat is inspected
Percentage of slaughtered animals inspected for residues of toxin chemicals including dioxin and DDT: less than 0.00004
The Ethical Argument
Number of animals killed for meat per hour in U.S.: 500.000
Occupation with highest turnover rate in U.S.: slaughterhouse worker
Occupation with highest rate of on-the-job injury in U.S: slaughterhouse worker
Cost to render animal unconscious with captive bolt pistol before slaughter.: 1 cent
Reason given by meat industry for non using that pistol: too expensive
The Survival Argument
Athlete to win Ironman Triathlon more than twice: Dave Scott (6 time winner) Food choices of Dave Scott: Vegetarian
Largest meat eater than ever lived: Tyrannosaurus Rex
Last sighting of Tyrannosaurus Rex: 100.000.000 B.C.
Famous pop stars - vegetarians:
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Candice Bergen, David Bowie, Paul Mc Cartney, Darryl Hannah, Janet Jackson, k.d.lang, Sting
'I am a great eater of beef, and I believe that does harm to my wit.'
--William Shakespeare "Twelfth Night," Act I, Scene 3
Krishna har arrangeret det så fint, at en ko producerer meget mere mælk end hendes kalv kan drikke.
-- men, men en ko er da bare et kødstativ, så vi kan få nogle saftige bøffer på bordet.
HOW TO WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH A MEAT EATER
The New York Times, Tuesday, June 20, 1989
The Hunger Argument
Number of people worldwide who will die of starvation this year: 60 million.
Number of people who could be adequately fed with the grain saved if Americans reduced their intake of meat by 10 perc.: 60 million
Human beings in America: 243 million
Number of people who could be fed with grain and soybeans now eaten by U.S. livestock: 1.3 billion
Percentage of corn grown in the U.S. eaten by people: 20
Percentage of corn grown in the U.S. eaten by livestock: 80
Percentage of oats grown in the U.S. eaten by livestock: 95
Percentage of protein waste by cycling grain through livestock: 99
How frequently a child starves to death: every 2 seconds
Pounds of potatoes that can be grown on an acre: 20.OOO
Pounds of beef produced on an acre: 165
Percentage of U.S. farmland devoted to beef production: 56
Pounds of grain and soybeans needed to produce a pound of beef: 16
The Environmental Argument
Cause of global warming: greenhouse effect
Primary cause of greenhouse effect: carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels.
Fossil fuels needed to produce a meat-centered diet vs. a meat-free diet: 50 times more
Percentage of U.S. topsoil lost to date: 75
Percentage of U.S. topsoil loss directly related to livestock raising: 85
Number of acres of U.S. forest cleared for cropland to produce meat-centered diet: 260 million
Amount of meat U.S. imports annually from Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Panama: 200 million pounds
Average per capita meat consumption in Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Panama: less than eaten by average U.S. housecat.
Area of tropical rainforest consumed in every 1/4 pound hamburger: 55 sq.ft.
Current rate of species extinction due to destruction of tropical rainforests for meat grazing and other uses: 1.000 per year
The Cancer Argument
Increased risk of breast cancer for women who eat meat 4 times a week vs. less than once a week: 4 times
For women who eat eggs daily vs. less than once a week: 3 times
Increased risk of fatal ovarian cancer for women who eat eggs 3 or more times a week vs. less than once a week: 3 times
Increased risk of fatal prostate cancer for men who eat meat daily vs. sparingly or not at all: 3.6 times
The Natural Resources Argument
Use of more than half of all water used for all purposes in the U.S.: livestock portion.
Amount of water used in production of the average steer: sufficient to float a destroyer.
Gallons to produce a pound of wheat: 25
Gallons to produce a pound of meat: 2.500
Cost of common hamburger if water used by meat industry was not subsidized by the U.S. taxpayer: 35 dollars a pound
Current cost of pound of protein from beefsteak, if water was no longer subsidized: 89 dollars
Years the world's known oil reserves would last if every human ate a meat-centered diet: 13
Years they would last if human beings no longer ate meat: 260
Barrels of oil imported into U.S. daily: 6.8 million
Percentage of fossil fuel returned as food energy by most efficient factory farming of meat: 34.5
Percentage returned from least efficient plant food: 32.8
Percentage of raw materials consumed by U.S. to produce present meat-centered diet: 33
The Cholesterol Argument
Number of U.S. medical schools: 125
Number requiring a course in nutrition: 30
Nutrition training received by average U.S. physician during four years in medical school: 25 hours
Most common cause of death in U.S.: heart attack
How frequently a heart attack kills in U.S.: every 45 seconds
Average U.S. man's risk of death from heart attack: 50 perc.
Risk for average U.S. man who avoids the meat-centered diet: 15 perc.
Meat industry claims you should not be concerned about your blood
cholesterol if it is: normal
Your risk of dying of a disease caused by clogged arteries if your blood cholesterol is 'normal': over 50 perc.
The Antibiotic Argument
Percentage of U.S. antibiotics fed to livestock: 55
Percentage of staphylococci infections resistant to penicillin in 1960: 13
Percentage resistant in 1988: 91
Response of European Economic Community to routine feeding of
antibiotics to livestock: ban
Response of U.S. meat and pharmaceutical industries to routine feeding of antibiotics to livestock: full and complete support
The Pesticide Argument
Percentage of pesticide residues in the U.S. diet supplied by grains: 1
Percentage of pesticide residues in the U.S. diet supplied by fruits: 4
Percentage of pesticide residues in the U.S. diet suppl. by dairy products: 23
Percentage of pesticide residues in the U.S. diet supplied by meat: 55
Pesticide contamination of breast milk from meat-eating mothers vs. non meat-eating: 35 times higher
What USDA tells us: meat is inspected
Percentage of slaughtered animals inspected for residues of toxin chemicals including dioxin and DDT: less than 0.00004
The Ethical Argument
Number of animals killed for meat per hour in U.S.: 500.000
Occupation with highest turnover rate in U.S.: slaughterhouse worker
Occupation with highest rate of on-the-job injury in U.S: slaughterhouse worker
Cost to render animal unconscious with captive bolt pistol before slaughter.: 1 cent
Reason given by meat industry for non using that pistol: too expensive
The Survival Argument
Athlete to win Ironman Triathlon more than twice: Dave Scott (6 time winner) Food choices of Dave Scott: Vegetarian
Largest meat eater than ever lived: Tyrannosaurus Rex
Last sighting of Tyrannosaurus Rex: 100.000.000 B.C.
Famous pop stars - vegetarians:
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Candice Bergen, David Bowie, Paul Mc Cartney, Darryl Hannah, Janet Jackson, k.d.lang, Sting
'I am a great eater of beef, and I believe that does harm to my wit.'
--William Shakespeare "Twelfth Night," Act I, Scene 3
jahnu's mor er en ko
Et eller andet svin skrev
Ja, der er masser af gode argumenter for at være vegetar, men det betyder ikke at koen er vores mor! Der er også gode grunde til at spise groft brød, men det betyder ikke at vores far er en pose grahamsmel!
Til forsvar for jahnu skal dog siges at jeg engang har mødt hans forældre, og det er forståeligt hvorfor jahnu tror at hans nærmeste familie er kvæg. Hvad intelligens, vid, hygiene, uddannelse, tarmluft og bordskik angår, der har jahnu-familien meget tilfælles med kvæg, og for den sags skyld, med gris og høns.
Krishna har arrangeret det så fint, at en ko producerer meget mere mælk end hendes kalv kan drikke.[/quote]
jahnu er så uvidende om biologi at han åbenbart tror at køer naturligt producerer mere mælk end kalven kan drikke. Det er selvfølgelig kun p.g.a. menneskets avlsarbejde at man har frembragt en art ko som producerer så meget mælk.
Derefter demonstrerer jahnu endnu engang hvor retarderede pædo-Swamis tilhængere er, ved at citere et lang og fuldstændigt irrelevant indlæg om noget helt andet:
[quote]HOW TO WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH A MEAT EATER
Ja, der er masser af gode argumenter for at være vegetar, men det betyder ikke at koen er vores mor! Der er også gode grunde til at spise groft brød, men det betyder ikke at vores far er en pose grahamsmel!
Til forsvar for jahnu skal dog siges at jeg engang har mødt hans forældre, og det er forståeligt hvorfor jahnu tror at hans nærmeste familie er kvæg. Hvad intelligens, vid, hygiene, uddannelse, tarmluft og bordskik angår, der har jahnu-familien meget tilfælles med kvæg, og for den sags skyld, med gris og høns.
jahnu's mor er en ko
bortset fra det, så er jeg faktisk enig med Jahnu i, at vores behandling af dyr er barbarisk. - Med undtagelse af hunde, som bliver optaget som familiemedlemmer. - Selvom en gris faktisk er klogere end en hund.