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Nationalbanken laver pengene i Danmark...NEJ

Mange, rigtig mange går rundt og tror at det er Nationalbanke som "slår mønt" i Danmark.
Dette er langt fra rigtigt, bankerne laver langt hovedparten ! ......Ja det er da løgn er der nok mange som helt sikker ved - de behøver ikke at læse videre (det tror de i hvert fald) !!
Men se blot:
http://www.information.dk/515762
Eller mere enkelt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvKjsIxT_8
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Nationalbanken laver pengene i Danmark...NEJ

Tja, det har været velkendt længe, at det er sådan Rothschilds, Rockefellers og Illuminati´s diktatur fungerer. De sætter folk i gæld via udlån af penge og gør folk til slaver af bankerne.
Gennem Nationalbanken ejer og kontrollerer Rothschilds-familien og dermed Illuminati Danmark.
Dokumentar om hvordan Illuminati styrer hele verden gennem bankerne:
Rothschild Illuminati Conspiracy Completely Exposed *New 2014*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKvntWbXtCQ

For nylig kom alt dette frem i Tyskland og der blev sat fokus på det i medierne. Og der var i foråret utroligt mange tyskere på gaden, som demonstrerede over Rothschilds og bankelitens mafiøse kontrol af verden. I Tyskland er folk ved at vågne op og indse, hvordan det hele hænger sammen. Nemlig at det ER sandt, at verden styres af Illuminati gennem bankerne (Rothschilds primært).
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Nationalbanken laver pengene i Danmark...NEJ

Det er derfor det er klogt at have en vis kontantbeholdning i sedler hjemme under madrassen. Man får ingen renter, men hvis hele det elektroniske pengesystem ramler sammen, så har man dog noget at bytte med / købe for.
Og det ville også være klogt, hvis Nationalbanken havde en vis guldbeholdning liggende i kælderen, til at "bakke op" om pengesedlerne. Hvis det internationale monetære system ramler sammen, så har man noget mere håndfast at handle med. I gamle dage var kravet, at alle pengesedler skulle kunne veksles til guld, men det er vist fortid. Desværre, måske?
Rollo.
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Guld som sikkerhed?

Ja - det er for længst fortid. Nationalbanken har dog en guldbeholdning med en værdi på mere end 10 mia. kr, men det er en meget lille del af pengemængden.
Det giver mere mening at sige, at borgernes faste ejendom er sikkerhed for pengemængden, for kreditforeningerne er nogen af dem, som har øget pengemængden mest i samfundet (ved at udstede obligationer). Bankerne har også sikkerhed for en pæn del af lånene.
Penge er jo først og fremmest elektroniske i dag, så sedler og mønter udgør en lille del af pengemængden.
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"Pengemængde" er et sjovt ord

Den klassiske betydning af penge er den jeg holder mest af. Den moderne betydning betragter jeg som en politisk bestemt eufemisme for kredit. Dette kneb er nemt at gennemføre. Måleenheden er jo den samme: kroner (eller i andre lande, den valutaenhed der anvendes der).
Det som jeg skrev om, var pengesedlerne (kontroller selv hvad jeg skrev), altså M0, som nogle kalder den primære pengemængde (eller: pengebasen).
http://www.denstoredanske.dk/Samfund,_jura_og_politik/%C3%98konomi/Penge-_og_kreditpolitik/penge/penge_(Pengem%C3%A6ngde)
Jeg giver dig ret i, at borgernes faste ejendom er en god sikkerhed for M2 (jeg ikke bryder mig om at kalde M2 for "penge" - det er jo kredit).
Til slut skriver du: "Penge er jo først og fremmest elektroniske i dag". Jo tak, jeg kender godt de officielle definitioner.
Vi giver hinanden kredit. Elektronisk. Det er pr. officiel definition penge. Problemet er, at hvis markedet styrer pengemængden, kan der opstå for rigelig adgang til kredit (og vi kan godt huske hvornår det sidst skete, ikke?).
Og hvad er "for rigelig adgang til kredit" pr. definition det samme som? En økonomisk boble! Så har vi balladen. Det finansielle marked kan i sig selv skabe en økonomisk boble. Derfor giver det mening at være pengepolitisk "konservativ".
Rollo.
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Nationalbanken laver pengene i Danmark...NEJ

Apropos bank-mafiaen faldt jeg lige over denne nye artikel fra beforeitsnews:

*****The Money In Your Bank Account Was Stolen This Morning!
http://beforeitsnews.com/banksters/2014/11/the-money-in-your-bank-account-was-stolen-this-morning-2435038.html

The headline is not a mistake. Yes, you can still go to the ATM and withdraw funds. You can take small amounts of cash out of the bank without the IRS seizing everything you own. However, because of new rules that went into effect this morning, your bank deposits have no insurance and it is a matter of time until they are stolen right from under your nose.
The G20 Just Stole Your Bank Account

With the G-20 summit coming up this weekend in Brisbane, Australia, it might be worth wondering if you can have too much money in the bank, or, whether you should any money in the bank at all!
As of this morning all nations belonging to the G20 will immediately submit and pass legislation that will fulfill a new investment program. This new program creates a whole new paradigm and set of rules whereby banks will no longer recognize your deposits as money.
Russell Napier is declaring November 16th as “the day money dies,” and this constitutes today’s Zero Hedge’s headline. According to Zero Hedge, Napier says the G-20 will announce “that bank deposits are just part of commercial banks’capital structure, and also that they are far from the most senior portion of that structure.” Pay close attention America this means that following a bank failure, “a bank deposit is no longer money in the way a banknote is.”
This G20 legislation will formally push down bank accounts through the capital structure to a position of being mere material capital risk in any ‘failing’ institution. In our last financial crisis, deposits were de facto guaranteed by the state, but beginning November 16th holders of large-scale deposits will be just another creditor fighting to regain their share of the assets of a failed bank,” according to Zero Hedge. And how much will your former money be worth when you come to make your claim? For reasons that will become apparent as you weave your way through this article and its conclusions, if you have $100,000 in a bank account, you will take home under $1200! This is why for the past 18 months I have been telling the nation to not deposit your paycheck into the bank. The prudent thing to do is to only put enough money in the bank to pay your basic bills and do other things with the remainder of the money, such as pay off your mortgage or pay off your car loans. If you have not been doing this, then you are almost out of time for the banksters have recently practiced how to steal your bank account.

The Federal Reserve and the Bank of England Have Already Rehearsed the Theft of Your Bank Account

The theft of the people’s money has already been rehearsed by the powers that be in the banking industry. Regulators from the United States and the United Kingdomgot together in a war room to see how they will cope when the next big bank fails.
Treasury Secretary Jack Lew and the UK’s Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne, on this past Monday (11/10), ran a joint exercise simulating how they would prop up a large bank (e.g. Bank of America) with operations in both countries that has landed itself in trouble. Also taking part in the “bank failure drill” was Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen and Bank of England Governor Mark Carney, and the heads of a large number of other regulators, in a meeting hosted by the U.S. Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.


Your Bank Account Has No Protection

The FDIC has only about $25 billion in its deposit insurance fund, which is mandated by law to keep a balance equivalent to only 1.15% of insured deposits.

If a banking collapse were to be on the near horizon, the banksters are not going to notify you because they would not want to incite a bank run. With only 1.15% of all deposits being insured by the FDIC, your money would be left vulnerable and only the elite would be warned as they quietly transfer their money to a safer haven, such as gold. How do I know this? Please read on.

Goldman Sachs Opened the Gates to Hell

Silver prices have dropped dramatically covering an aggregate period of 18 months. Panic selling dominated the market as investors and financial institutions could not dump their holdings of silver and gold fast enough. The market clearly shows signs of mass manipulation by the Globalists. The globalists have been moving their fiat currency holdings to gold since the Spring of 2013. The price of gold was artificially manipulated by Goldman Sachs to drive down the price of gold in order to make it cheaper for the powers-that-be to purchase gold cheaply. You see, they know that very soon, there will no money left in the banks. You want proof? The best proof that the globalists are manipulating the price of gold comes from “Goldman Sachs (who), in the Spring of 2013, told their that they recommend initiating a short COMEX gold position.”

Please remember that this is the same Goldman Sachs that shorted its stocks on 9/11. This is the same Goldman Sachs that placed put options on Transocean stock the morning of the Gulf oil explosion. This is the same Goldman Sachs that got caught shorting the housing market in advance of the housing bubble burst. Basically, when Goldman Sachs starts shorting anything, we should all become apprehensive particularly if our individual investments are anywhere in the neighborhood of the commodities being impacted by shorting. When Goldman Sachs begins to short anything, it is time to take your money and run for the hills. That time would be now.

Why Would Goldman Sachs Dramatically Drive the Price of Gold Down?

Beside trading and bartering, if the dollar and the Euro were to collapse tomorrow, what currency of exchange would the left standing? The obvious and simple answer would be primarily, gold, and secondarily, silver. Ask yourself this question, if you knew that paper monies all around the world were to collapse, what action would represent your best option? The obvious answer would be to dramatically drive down the price of gold and silver if one had the ability to do so, and then buy as much as gold as one possibly could. Goldman Sachs has the ability to do so by utilizing their ominous shorting strategy and it is precisely what they have done.

ONE MORE DOT TO CONNECT
Additionally, your bank account has been collateralized against the derivatives debt. Hence, you had, in 2008, former CEO of Goldman Sachs and the Secretary of Treasury, Hank Paulson, telling a closed session of Congress that if they did not authorize the bailouts, there would be tanks in the street an ultimately, REVOLUTION! This was necessitated by the credit swap derivatives Ponzi scheme and the debacle that followed.
Further, the bankruptcy reform laws stemming from the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 2005, the credit swap derivatives counter-parties are given preference over all other creditors and customers of the bankrupt financial institution, including FDIC insured depositors. This is why the G20 effectively stole your money this morning!
In the action taken by the G20 nations, this morning, your bank account is no longer considered to be money. The bankers holding the bag on the credit swap derivatives will move to the head of the FDIC compensation line. Therefore, the regulations requiring that your money be insured by the FDIC are no longer in effect! This devaluation of “money to something other than money gives what the experts call “super priority” in terms of the line of succession from which to collect bankruptcy monies. TAKE YOUR MONEY OUT OF THE BANK! But do not do so until you read my next article because you could go to jail if you make a mistake.

To make matters worse, Bank of America has conspicuously co-mingled their credit swap derivatives debt with your savings account and as such they have every legal right use your money to cover their debt. The derivatives debt is conservatively estimated to be one quadrillion dollars which is about 16 times the entire GDP of the planet. Even before today, your money is as good as gone. Today’s action by the G20 only further cements this new reality that you, your labor your possessions are all slave capital to the banksters. Your value as a human being has been monitized.

To The Dumbed Down Sheep of America

We have recently discovered that JP Morgan is in the same exact boat as Bank of America as is Wells Fargo. Oh, they would never do that and steal your money, you say? I have bad news for the uninformed sheep of this country, they already have done that very thing.
In the MF Global debacle, the reason that MF Global customers lost their segregated account funds was because the MF Global debt load was caused primarily because of their credit swap derivatives debt which, under bankruptcy laws, gave derivatives claimants super-priority in the bankruptcy proceedings. This is why Corzine and his fellow criminals did not go to prison as former Goldman Sachs executive, now the head of the Securities and Exchange CME gave Corzine, a former Goldman Sachs executive, a free pass on the theft of investors money at MF Global. This was a beta test.
As of this morning, every bank account in America became an MF Global. You are now playing in a game with no rules.
Some of the sheep might actually wake up when they lose their bank account.
Some of the sheep might actually wake up when they lose their bank account to the latest in banking conspiracies.

Remember, sheep of America, as you are driving to work tomorrow, you are doing so in order that to have the privilege to earn money and give it to Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Wells Fargo and JP Morgan Chase.

Working for Goldman Sachs.
In short, you do not matter and as of this morning, your money is not really money and your bank account is no longer in your control.

Conclusion

Before this week is over, I will be revealing how you can save some of your money. It is too late to save all of your money as that ship sailed some time ago. However, it is still possible to save much more that the 1.1% that your government is going to give you as compensation. Did I mention that 401 k’s and your retirements are next?
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Tjoh

Du kan dog godt sælge dine kreditforeningsobligationer og købe en ny bil - uden at obligationerne bliver vekslet til pengesedler - transaktionen fremgår blot som nogen tal på bankens konti.
Når du på den måde kan købe en ny bil for dine obligationer, så er det vel en slags penge?
Hvis banken låner dig penge til at ny bil, så øges pengemængden helt tilsvarende.
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Nationalbanken laver pengene i Danmark...NEJ

Jeg er nu ret overbevist om at enhver med tilstrækkeligt pengesedler, kan gå til den lokale smykkehandler, og tømme butikken for guld hver eneste dag, så længe du har råd...
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Guld som sikkerhed?

Det er efter min mening en farlig glidebane, at man i dag er så afhængige af elekstroniske, kunstige penge. Kommer der en kæmpe finanskrise, så kan samfundet gå fuldstændigt i opløsning, fordi man ikke har sikkerhed i pengene i form af konkrete, håndgribelige værdier.
Og det værste er, at magteliten alias Illuminati med Rothschild-familien i spidsen har planer om at afskaffe alle kontanter. Det vil ske indenfor maks 10-15 år formentlig. Og så vil folk virkelig være på den, hvis der går ged i det kunstige pengemarked. Jeg er måske gammeldags, men kan godt lide kontanter. Nemlig det at man har pengene mellem hænderne og ved hvad man har med at gøre. Og kontanter kan jo ikke bare pist forsvinde udi den blå luft som kunstige bankpenge kan det.
Disse planer blev afsløret af Aaron Russo kort før sin død. Han havde det direkte fra Rockefeller:
Rockefeller Reveals 9 11 FRAUD and New World Order to Aaron Russo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuinaIm-kd4

Videobeskrivelse:
Hollywood director Russo goes in-depth for first time on the astounding admissions of Nick Rockefeller, including his prediction of 9/11 and the war on terror hoax, the Rockefeller's creation of women's lib, and the elite's ultimate plan for world population reduction and a microchipped society Aaron Russo joins Alex Jones for a fascinating sit-down in depth video interview on a plethora of important subjects. Aaron begins by describing how the draconian and mafia tactics of Chicago police woke him up to the fact that America wasn't free after his nightclub was routinely raided and he was forced to pay protection money. Aaron and Alex then cover a broad range of topics including the private run for profit federal reserve, Aaron's experience in the late 80's with the IRS when they retroactively passed laws to punish silver and gold traders, the real meaning of the word "democracy," what really happened on 9/11 and Aaron's relationship with Nick Rockefeller, who personally tried to recruit him on behalf of the CFR. Aaron also relates how Rockefeller told him that the elite created women's liberation to destroy the family and how they want to ultimately microchip and control the entire population. Rockefeller also told before 9/11 Russo that an unexpected "event" would catalyze the U.S. to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.«
America: Freedom to Fascism Filmmaker Aaron Russo has exposed first-hand knowledge of the elite global agenda during a video interview and live on Alex Jones' nationally-syndicated radio show.
Nick Rockefeller told Russo about the plan to microchip the population, warned him about 'an event that would allow us to invade Afghanistan and Iraq' some eleven months before 9/11 and foretold the fact that the 'War on Terror' would be a hoax wherein soldiers would be looking in caves for non-existant enemies.
Rockefeller also tried to recruit Aaron Russo to the Council on Foreign Relations during the tenure of their friendship. Now, a picture send by the Russo family verifies that friendship and strengthens evidence of the global agenda which Rockefeller related to the filmmaker so frankly during their private conversations.
Russo goes in-depth for first time on the astounding admissions of Nick Rockefeller, including his prediction of 9/11 and the war on terror hoax, the Rockefeller's creation of women's lib, and the elite's ultimate plan for world population reduction and a microchipped society
In the full interview, available on Google Video, Aaron begins by describing how the draconian and mafia tactics of Chicago police woke him up to the fact that America wasn't free after his nightclub was routinely raided and he was forced to pay protection money.
Aaron and Alex then cover a broad range of topics including the private run for profit federal reserve, Aaron's experience in the late 80's with the IRS when they retroactively passed laws to punish silver and gold traders, the real meaning of the word "democracy," what really happened on 9/11 and Aaron's relationship with Nick Rockefeller, who personally tried to recruit him on behalf of the CFR.
Aaron also relates how Rockefeller told him that the elite created women's liberation to destroy the family and how they want to ultimately microchip and control the entire population. Rockefeller also told Russo, before 9/11, that an unexpected "event" would catalyze the U.S. to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.
After you watch this, please check out the full 69-minute interview. Here's the link:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?d...
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Nationalbanken laver pengene i Danmark...NEJ

Bestemt. 1 person kan gå i banken og hæve kontanter og så købe i smykkebutikken, 5 kan gøre det 5000 kan - Men hvis alle ville hæve alle deres penge og købe smykker, ja så er der slet ikke penge nok at hæve - der er til de første 6 ud af 100 - du 94 vil få at vide: Desværre vi har ikke flere penge !!!!!
Og det er jo fordi at banken selv laver penge og Nationalbanken kun omk 6 % - Ja resten er lavet af Nordea, Danske Bank ect.....
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Vel kan penge da forsvinde

Hundredkroner sedler er ikke mere værd - end man "tror", de er værd.
Hvis ingen har tillid til penge, kan man ikke købe noget for dem.
I Tyskland i de tidlige 1920'ere fordobledes priserne hver 49. time, og det vil sige, at hver anden dag blev en hundredmarkseddel blot "50 mark værd".
Derfor er elektroniske penge ikke nogen glidebane, men man skal da passe godt på, at lån kan betales tilbage.
Noget lignende som der skete med tyskernes pengesedler i de tidlige 1920'ere, kan jo ske med den pengemængde, som man har sat i omløb ved at udstede obligationer.
Det er grunden til, at jeg ofte har kritiseret de nye lånetyper.
Starten på finanskrisen var netop, at lavtlønnede amerikanere ikke kunne betale deres subpreme lån (fordi Bush syntes, at det var så synd for de rige, at de skulle betale topskat. Derved blev de lavtlønnede spændt så hårdt for, at de ikke kunne betale deres lån).
Så forduftede de penge - tilsvarende tyskernes pengesedler, som hurtigt tabte deres værdi.
Jeg ved faktisk ikke om obligationer eksisterer på papir i dag. Nu har jeg ingen obligationer, men jeg har tidligere handlet med obligationer. Jeg så dem aldrig, for de lå i depot, så jeg ved ikke, om de eksisterede rent fysisk.
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Nationalbanken laver pengene i Danmark...NEJ

Mange, rigtig mange går rundt og tror at det er Nationalbanke som "slår mønt" i Danmark.
Dette er langt fra rigtigt, bankerne laver langt hovedparten ! ......Ja det er da løgn er der nok mange som helt sikker ved - de behøver ikke at læse videre (det tror de i hvert fald) !!
Men se blot:
http://www.information.dk/515762
Eller mere enkelt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvKjsIxT_8

Rigtig godt emne!
Det har jeg forsøgt at sige i mange år. Kort sagt det er kun ca 8% af den teoretiske pengemængde, der findes i reel valuta. Resten er lånegenereret af bankerne.
Lige nu er det boligmarkedet der gemmer denne grumme sandhed. Man har kunstigt opskruet priserne på boligmarkedet, og derved genereret enorme gældssummer. Gæld er absolut også penge.
Ved at fastfryse boligmarkedet som vi ser nu, kan man opretholde illusionen om at alt går fint. Bankerne bestemmer hvor meget køber må købe for, og bankerne bestemmer hvor meget sælger må sælge for, og på den måde kan man holde dette ekstreme gældscirkus i ave.
MVH
Megaprofilos
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Nationalbanken laver pengene i Danmark...NEJ

Det undrer mig bare, at man fra politisk hold tillader denne bankmafia. Men det viser vel bare, hvor meget politikerne er i lommerne på Rothschilds, Rockefeller og resten af Illuminati´s bankelite. 😮
Det hænger sikkert også lidt sammen med, at det immervæk er et system som på godt og ondt har fungeret pænt i mange år, og så skal der mod til at kæmpe imod det og tage det op til revision. Men i længden bliver man jo bare slaver af denne bankmafia, når ingen tør tage kampen op imod dem. For hvert år der går, jo mere gæld opbygges der til denne bankmafia og jo mere er vi alle i lommerne på dem. Det er skruen uden ende.
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Nationalbanken laver pengene i Danmark...NEJ

Noget smykkeguld kan være ned til 14 karat, endda lavere, og det er der ikke mange penge i.

Jeg er nu ret overbevist om at enhver med tilstrækkeligt pengesedler, kan gå til den lokale smykkehandler, og tømme butikken for guld hver eneste dag, så længe du har råd...
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Pr. definition har du ret

Dit første eksempel: ifølge den modere definition af penge, er det rigtigt, at det er en slags penge. Jeg er blot tilhænger af den traditionelle opfattelse af hvad penge er. En af de ting der kendetegner traditionelle penge er, at de er fysiske og derfor har knaphed som iboende egenskab.
Dit andet eksempel: igen, det er korrekt, ifølge den moderne definition. Men jeg kalder det kredit. Nogen kalder det gæld. Men pr. definintion er det en del af pengemængden, selv om det burde defineres som betalingsmidler, efter min mening.
Som jeg skrev tildigere, betragter jeg den moderne definition af penge som en eufemisme og jeg bryder mig ikke om det. Der er naturligvis politiske motiver bag det propagandakneb.
Rollo.
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Økonomisk boble

Dit eksempel med lavtlønnede amerikanere: det som gik galt var, at folk med ringe tilbagebetalingsevne (de lavtlønnede) fik alt for nem adgang til kredit (de såkaldte "junkbonds"). Mange af disse lavtlønnede gik fallit og det fik snebolden til at rulle, det var i hvert fald en af årsagerne.
Så er vi igen ved definitionen på en økonomisk boble: den opstår, når adgang til kredit er for nem, set i forhold til debitors tilbagebetalingsevne - i dit eksempel: de lavtlønnede.
Rollo.
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Nationalbanken laver pengene i Danmark...NEJ

Dandegn skriver nogenlunde det jeg ville svare.
En kan gøre det, men hvis alle gjorde det, kunne det ikke lade sig gøre.
Men i gamle dage, da alting var bedre, havde nationalbanken tilstrækkeligt med guld til at ombytte samtlige danske pengesedler til guld.
Rollo.
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Nationalbanken laver pengene i Danmark...NEJ

Du glemte at nævne Bilderberg! 😃
Nej, det er ikke Rothschild / Rockefeller / Illuminati / bankmafiaen der er skyld i dette. Drivkraften er en liberalistisk ideologi, der bl.a. forherliger globalisering, herunder globalisering af pengemarkedet.
Ulempen ved dette er, at hvis man hopper på den limpind, så kan det være svært at føre en selvstændig økonomisk politik.
Rollo.
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