var beklehjems stjerne, satans?

Chris: Joe, can you tell me why the Watchtower believes that the star of Bethlehem was Satan's star and that the wise men were led by Satan?
Joe: I have brought some information from the Watchtower for you to look at Chris. Look at this article in the July 1, 1985 Watchtower. On pages 16 & 17 it says "Who do you think provided the star that moved in the sky to guide the astrologers? Remember, the star did not guide them directly to Jesus in Bethlehem. Rather, they were led to Jerusalem where they came in touch with King Herod, who wanted to kill Jesus. And he would have done so if God had not stepped in and warned the astrologers not to tell Herod. It was God's enemy, Satan the Devil, who wanted Jesus killed, and he used that star to try to accomplish this purpose." You see, Chris the star that led the magi was Satan's star and it was used to try to destroy Jesus.
Chris: That is certainly a very interesting premise Joe, but I have never seen it that way from scripture. I'm wondering if you could answer some questions I have about the story of the star and the wise men found in the Bible.
Joe: I am always willing to answer your Bible questions.
Chris: Look at Matthew 2:1 & 2.
Joe: In the New World Translation is says "After Jesus had been born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, look! Astrologers from eastern parts came to Jerusalem, saying: "Where is the one born king of the Jews? For we saw his star (when we were) in the east, and we have come to do him obeisance."
Chris: Joe, according to Matthew 2:1 & 2, where did the wise men see the star?
Joe: It says they saw the star when they were in the east.
Chris: Does it say that the star led them to Jerusalem?
Joe: Well...no, it just says that they saw the star in the east. But it had to lead them to Jerusalem or else how did they get there?
Chris: Obviously they knew something about the Jews and their religion because the Bible says that they knew that the star was connected with the long-awaited king of the Jews. If they were aware of the Jew's belief in a coming king, where do you think that they would look to find the king?
Joe: Jerusalem was the logical choice as it was the capital city and had the throne of king Herod.
Chris: That's right, Joe. Logically Jerusalem would be the place to start their search for the king. But can you find any verse that says that the star led the wise men to Jerusalem?
Joe: Hmmm. Well, no I guess there isn't any verse. We just assume that the star led them to Jerusalem because Satan wanted Jesus killed.
Chris: You know Joe, there is a verse that talks about the star leading the magi. Have a look at Matt. 2:9.
Joe: It says, "When they had heard the king, they went their way; and, look! the star they had seen (when they were) in the east went ahead of them, until it came to a stop above where the young child was."
Chris: Joe, did the star lead the magi to Jesus?
Joe: Yes, it did. But it was Satan's star.
Chris: Look at verse 12. Who gave the wise men direction in a dream?
Joe: It says "However, because they were given divine warning in a dream not to return to Herod, they withdrew to their country by another way." Here Jehovah warned the wise men to stay away from Herod but he had to do this or else Herod would have killed Jesus.
Chris: If the star of Bethlehem was Satan's star, then Satan goofed! He should have sent the star to direct Herod not the wise men. You see the wise men were obedient to Jehovah, but Herod obviously was not.
Joe: The star couldn't have been Jehovah's star. There is no reason to send pagan astrologers to Jesus other then to stir up Herod to try to kill Jesus.
Chris: Joe, if the magi were pawns of Satan and influenced by him, then they would not have obeyed Jehovah's warning in a dream. The fact that they obeyed Jehovah proves that they were sent by him.
Joe: So, they obeyed him that proves nothing.
Chris: Jehovah could easily have stopped the wise men from finding Jesus just as He stopped Herod from finding Jesus. But the wise men provided something for his Son that was needed because of an important prophecy.
Joe: What do you mean?
Chris: Matthew 2:15 quotes a prophecy from Jehovah about His Son being in Egypt. And verse 18 is another prophecy quoted about the death of the young children that would be killed by Herod. It was no surprise to Jehovah that Herod would cause the death of many children in an attempt to kill Jesus. Jehovah already knew this and gave a prophecy to show that He was prepared for this event. How would Jehovah provide protection for Jesus?
Joe: He would send Jesus and his parents into Egypt.
Chris: If Jehovah already knew that his Son would need to go to Egypt just as Jehovah prophecied, what did He prepare to provide financially for his Son in Egypt?
Joe: I've never thought of that question before. I don't know.
Chris: Just think, Joe. The wise men brought very expensive gifts to the young child Jesus. These gifts were worth enough to finance the stay in Egypt of God's Son. These men brought Jehovah's financial provision for Jesus and not until after the magi left were Jesus' parents instructed to flee to Egypt. Now Joe, whose star do you think the star of Bethlehem really was?

Chris: Joe, kan du fortælle mig, hvorfor vagttårn mener, at stjernen i Bethlehem var Satan's stjerne, og at de kloge mænd blev ledet af Satan?
Joe: Jeg har bragt nogle oplysninger fra vagttårn for dig at se på Chris. Se på denne artikel i den 1 juli 1985 vagttårn. På siderne 16 og 17 det siger "Hvem tror du, forudsat at den stjerne, der flyttes i himlen for at målrette astrologer? Husk, at stjernen ikke vejlede dem direkte til Jesus i Bethlehem. Snarere, de blev ført til Jerusalem, hvor de kom i kontakt med kong Herodes, der ønskede at dræbe Jesus. Og han ville have gjort det, hvis Gud ikke havde grebet ind og advarede astrologer ikke at fortælle Herodes. Det var Guds fjende, Satan djævelen, der ønskede Jesus dræbt, og han brugte, at stjerne for at forsøge at opnå dette formål. " De kan se, Chris stjernen, at foranledigede Magi var Satan's stjerne, og det blev brugt til at forsøge at ødelægge Jesus.
Chris: Det er bestemt en meget interessant forudsætning Joe, men jeg har aldrig set det på den måde fra Skrift. Jeg spørger mig selv, hvis du kunne besvare nogle spørgsmål, jeg har om historien om stjernen og kloge mænd findes i Bibelen.
Joe: Jeg er altid villig til at besvare dine Bibelen spørgsmål.
Chris: Kig på Matthew 2:1 & 2.
Joe: I New World Translation er siger "Efter Jesus var blevet født i Bethlehem i Judea i de dage af Herodes den konge, se! Astrologer fra det østlige dele kom til Jerusalem og sagde:" Hvor er det en født konge af jøderne? For vi har set hans stjerne (da vi var) i øst, og vi er kommet til at gøre ham obeisance. "
Chris: Joe, ifølge Mattæus 2:1 & 2, hvor kom den kloge mænd se stjerne?
Joe: Det siger de så stjernen, når de var i øst.
Chris: Betyder det sige, at den stjerne førte dem til Jerusalem?
Joe: Tja ... nej, det bare siger, at de så stjernen i øst. Men det skulle føre dem til Jerusalem eller andet, hvordan gjorde de er kommet der?
Chris: Selvfølgelig de vidste noget om jøderne og deres religion, fordi Bibelen siger, at de vidste, at stjernen blev forbundet med den længe ventede konge af jøderne. Hvis de var klar over Jøde's tro på en kommende konge, hvor tror du, at de ville se at finde kongen?
Joe: Jerusalem var det logiske valg, da det var den hovedstad og havde tronen af kong Herodes.
Chris: Det er rigtigt, Joe. Logisk Jerusalem ville være det bedste sted at starte deres søgning efter kongen. Men kan du finde alle vers, der siger, at stjernen førte den kloge mænd til Jerusalem?
Joe: Hmmm. Nå, nej jeg gætte der er ikke nogen vers. Vi prøver bare antage, at den stjerne førte dem til Jerusalem, fordi Satan ønskede Jesus dræbt.
Chris: Du kender Joe, der er et vers, som taler om det star i spidsen for Magi. Have et kig på Matt. 2:9.
Joe: Den siger, "Når de havde hørt den konge, de gik deres vej, og se! Den stjerne de havde set (når de var) i den østlige del gik foran dem, indtil det kom til et stop over, hvor de unge barn var. "
Chris: Joe, gjorde stjernen stå i spidsen for Magi til Jesus?
Joe: Ja, det gjorde. Men det var Satan's stjerne.
Chris: Kig på vers 12. Hvem gav vismænd retning i en drøm?
Joe: Der står "Men da de fik guddommelig advarsel i en drøm ikke at vende tilbage til Herodes, de trak sig tilbage til deres land med en anden måde." Her Jehovah advarede den kloge mænd til at holde sig væk fra Herodes men han var nødt til at gøre dette eller andet Herodes ville have dræbt Jesus.
Chris: Hvis stjernen i Bethlehem var Satan's stjerne, så Satan goofed! Han burde have sendt stjerne til direkte Herodes ikke de vismænd. Du se de kloge mænd blev lydig til Jehovah, men Herodes naturligvis ikke var.
Joe: Stjernen ikke kunne have været Jehovas stjerne. Der er ingen grund til at sende hedenske astrologer til Jesus andre derefter at hvirvle op Herodes til at forsøge at dræbe Jesus.
Chris: Joe, hvis Magi blev brikker af Satan og påvirket af ham, så ville de ikke har overholdt Jehovas advarsel i en drøm. Den omstændighed, at de overholdes Jehovah beviser, at de blev sendt med ham.
Joe: Så de overholdes ham at bevise noget.
Chris: Jehovah kunne let have stoppet de vise mænd fra at finde Jesus ligesom Han stoppede Herodes i at finde Jesus. Men den kloge mænd forudsat noget for hans søn, der var nødvendig på grund af en vigtig profeti.
Joe: Hvad mener du?
Chris: Matthew 2:15 citerer en profeti fra Jehovah om hans søn, der i Egypten. Og vers 18 er en anden profeti citeret om mordet på den unge børn, der ville blive dræbt af Herodes. Det var ingen overraskelse for Jehovah, at Herodes ville forårsage døden for mange børn i et forsøg på at dræbe Jesus. Jehovah allerede vidste dette og gav en profeti at vise, at han var rede til denne begivenhed. Hvordan ville Jehovah yde beskyttelse til Jesus?
Joe: Han ville sende Jesus og hans forældre i Egypten.
Chris: Hvis Jehovah allerede vidste, at hans søn vil være nødvendigt at gå til Egypten lige så Jehovah prophecied, hvad gjorde han forberede sig på at yde økonomisk for hans Søn i Egypten?
Joe: Jeg har aldrig tænkt på, at spørgsmålet før. Jeg ved det ikke.
Chris: Tænk, Joe. De vise mænd bragte meget dyre gaver til det lille barn Jesus. Disse gaver var værd at nok til at finansiere opholdet i Egypten af Guds Søn. Disse mænd bragte Jehovas finansielle bestemmelse om Jesus og ikke før efter Magi venstre var Jesus' forældre instrueres i at flygte til Egypten. Nu Joe, hvis stjerne tror du stjernen i Bethlehem virkelig var?

Chris: Joe in the last couple of weeks we have been discussing the reasons why Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate Christmas. When I read from a very old Watchtower magazine I was surprised to see that originally the Watchtower taught that Christmas was alright for Jehovah's Witnesses to celebrate and that the date, although it wasn't important, corresponded to his conception rather then his birth.
Joe: I was never told why the Watchtower celebrated Christmas in their early years but I still believe that Christmas is a pagan holiday and is condemned by the Bible. After all, Chris, did Jehovah ever command Christians to celebrate the birth of his son?
Chris: There is no direct command but I believe that there is a precedence in scripture that allows God's people to have the freedom to chose their own holiday in order to celebrate God's gift of life sent in the person of God's son.
Joe: I have never seen any scripture like that.
Chris: Joe, take a look at the Book of Esther. You remember the story - God's people were faced with complete annihilation shortly after Esther became Queen. Without regard for her life Esther approached the king and plead for the life of her people. But the law that called for the death of the Jews had been signed with the king's name and signet ring and could not be revoked. In order to save the Jews, Queen Esther was given the king's signet ring and permission granted for her to write a law that would protect them. The new law allowed the Jews to gather together to protect their lives. Joe, read what happed from Esther 9:1 from the New World Translation.
Joe: "...on the day for which the enemies of the Jews had waited to domineer over them, there was even a turning to the contrary, in that the Jews themselves domineered over those hating them."
Chris: The Jews were so happy that they were saved from their enemies that they instituted their own holy day or holiday and called it Purim. In Esther 9:9-31 it says "Therefore the Jews...celebrated the fourteenth day of the month of Adar as a day of gladness and feasting, as a holiday, and for sending presents to one another...And Mordecai wrote these things...to establish among them that they should celebrate yearly the fourteenth day of the month of Adar, as the days on which the Jews had rest from their enemies, as the month which was turned from sorrow to joy for them, and from mourning to a holiday; that they should make them days of feasting and joy, of sending presents to one another and gifts to the poor. So the Jews accepted the custom which theyhad begun...they called these days Purim...the Jews established...that without fail they should celebrate these two days every year...they had decreed for themselves." Joe was it okay with Jehovah that the Jews created their own holiday, gave it a name and accepted the custom to celebrate Purim every year?
Joe: Well, I guess it was alright with Jehovah. I know that the Jews celebrated Purim in Jesus time and still do to this day. Jesus never condemned the celebration.
Chris: That's right Joe. You see Purim was instituted by the Jews and the very day that Satan instituted as a day of death for the Jews was turned around as a victorious celebration for them. In the same way Christians have the freedom to chose to celebrate the marvelous gift of God's Son. The Christians who originally instituted the celebration of the conception together with the birth of our Savior believed that it was right to honor Jesus on any day, and Christians throughout the centuries have agreed. As a result December 25th the day that pagans worshiped the sun in the sky, was victoriously taken back for God in order to honor and adore God's gift of His Son. The victory of light over darkness has been so outstanding that the pagan worship of the sun on December 25th has long disappeared.
Joe: I've never thought of it that way before. But, Chris, I could never celebrate Christmas because if I did I would be disfellowshipped. I would be kicked out of the kingdom.
Chris: That is a very drastic action. Can we discuss next week the reasons why the Watchtower kicks people out of the kingdom for celebrating Christmas?
Joe: Sure.
Chris: Joe, the Watchtower does not want their followers to honor the birth of Christ. Can you tell me why?
Joe: Chris, the Watchtower says in the Dec. 15, 1994 issue, "If you are now an adult, have you ever felt embarrassed when, in your presence, people showed photographs of you as a baby? True, such pictures remind your parents of their joy at your birth. But now that you have an identity of your own, do you not usually prefer others to see you as your are? In a similar vein, think how disrespectful it is toward Christ Jesus when those who claim to be his followers become so engrossed each year in the pagan traditions of Christmas and in honoring an infant that they fail to honor him as King."
Chris: That is a serious charge! The Watchtower seems to imply that one cannot honor the birth of Christ as well as honor Jesus as King. Yet Christians around the world honor Jesus both for his birth and for being King. Is it really a serious matter for a Jehovah's Witnesses to choose to celebrate Christmas?
Joe: The Watchtower Dec. 15, 1984 says that the most serious danger of celebrating Christmas is that it could lead to losing God's favor and we as Jehovah's Witnesses realize that to celebrate Christmas would mean being brought before a judicial committee and then kicked out.
Chris: When did celebrating Christmas become such a serious matter that one could lose God's favor and thus lose eternal life?
Joe: Well the Watchtower says that God never intended that Christians should celebrate the birth of His Son. In their eyes it has always been wrong.
Chris: Didn't the Watchtower celebrate Christmas many years ago?
Joe: Yes. When the Watchtower was first formed, the founder Charles T. Russell and the early Jehovah's Witnesses all celebrated Christmas.
Chris: Was the Watchtower required to stop celebrating Christmas before Jehovah God approved of them?
Joe: No. The Watchtower still celebrated Christmas for many years after Jesus picked them in 1919 as the only organization on earth that was worthy of being the faithful slave.
Chris: Doesn't that sound hypocritical? The Watchtower condemns others for celebrating Christ's birth yet they say that they found God's favor at the time when they were still celebrating Christmas. If Jehovah did not condemn them then, why would his standards change now?
Joe: I don't think Jehovah's standards changed.
Chris: Then the Watchtower's standards changed. When the Watchtower celebrated Christmas did they celebrate in a different way then we do today?
Joe: No, they celebrated Christmas in much the same way that Christians celebrate today. They gave gifts, had Christmas decorations, sang Christmas carols. The Watchtower even agreed with Christendom that although Dec. 25 was not the day that Jesus was born, it most likely was the date of conception, and it was as good a day as any to join in with the rest of the world to celebrate his birth.
Chris: What changed their minds about Christmas?
Joe: Sometime after Rutherford became president he decided that too much emphasis was put on Jesus and not enough on Jehovah and the kingdom. He outlawed Christmas saying that it was a pagan celebration.
Chris: Did he ban everything that had pagan roots like the Roman calender, wedding anniversaries and wedding rings?
Joe: No he allowed those things. They are no longer looked on as pagan today so they are okay.
Chris: But Joe, no one worships the sun in the sky on Dec. 25 anymore. Why did Rutherford still ban Christmas?
Joe: Rutherford felt that at Christmas time, people gave honor and worship to Jesus and this took away from the worship of Jehovah.
Chris: What does the Bible say about how the Son is to be honored? Look at John 5:23.
Joe: It says "in order that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He that does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him."
Chris: So we are to honor the Son just as we honor the Father. Giving honor to Jesus at any time of year does not take away from honoring the Father. In fact John 5:23 says that giving honor to Jesus honors the Father.
Joe: I've never seen that verse before.

Chris: Joe i de sidste par uger har vi diskuteret årsagerne til, at Jehovas Vidner ikke fejrer jul. Når jeg læser fra en meget gammel vagttårn magasin jeg var overrasket over at se, at oprindeligt vagttårn lært, at julen var i orden for Jehovas Vidner at fejre, og at den dato, selv om det ikke var vigtigt, svarede til hans opfattelse frem for hans fødsel.
Joe: Jeg har aldrig fortalt, hvorfor vagttårn fejrede jul i deres tidlige år, men jeg mener stadig, at julen er en hedensk ferie og er fordømt af Bibelen. Når alt kommer til alt, Chris, gjorde Jehovah nogensinde kommando kristne at fejre fødslen af hans søn?
Chris: Der er ingen direkte kommando, men jeg tror, at der er en forrang i skriftsted, der gør det muligt for Guds folk skal have frihed til at vælge deres egen ferie for at fejre Guds gave for livet sendt i person af Guds søn.
Joe: Jeg har aldrig set nogen Skrift gerne det.
Chris: Joe, tage et kig på den bog af Esther. Du husker historien - Guds folk blev konfronteret med totale tilintetgørelse kort efter Esther blev dronning. Med henvisning til hendes liv Esther henvendte sig til kongen og påberåbe sig for livet af hendes folk. Men den lovgivning, som opfordrede til døden af jøderne var blevet underskrevet med kongens navn og signet ring og kan ikke tilbagekaldes. For at redde jøderne, dronning Esther fik kongens signet ring og tilladelse gives for hende at skrive en lov, der ville beskytte dem. Den nye lov gjorde det muligt for jøder at samle sammen for at beskytte deres liv. Joe, kan du læse, hvad happed fra Esther 9:1 fra New World Translation.
Joe: "... den dag, som fjender af jøderne havde ventet at domineer over dem, der var endnu en drejning på det modsatte, i, at jøderne selv domineered over dem hating dem."
Chris: Jøderne var så glad for, at de blev reddet fra deres fjender, at de er oprettet deres egen hellige dag eller ferie og kaldte det Purim. I Esther 9:9-31 det siger "Derfor er jøder ... fejrede den fjortende dag i den måned, Adar som en dag glædens og feasting, som en ferie, og for at sende gaver til hinanden ... Og Mordechai skrev disse ting ... at etablere blandt dem, at de skulle fejre årlige fjortende dag i den måned, Adar, som de dage, hvor jøder havde resten fra deres fjender, som den måned, som blev vendt fra sorg til glæde for dem, og fra sorg til en ferie, at de burde gøre dem dage feasting og glæde, for at sende gaver til hinanden og gaver til de fattige. Så jøderne accepterede den brugerdefinerede som theyhad begyndt ... de kaldte disse dage Purim ... de Jøder etableret ... uden at svigte de skal fejre disse to dage hvert år ... de havde dekreteret for sig selv. " Joe var det okay med Jehovah, at jøderne har oprettet deres egen ferie, gav det et navn og accepteret vane at fejre Purim hvert år?
Joe: Tja, jeg tror det var i orden med Jehovah. Jeg ved, at jøderne fejrede Purim i Jesu tid og stadig gør den dag i dag. Jesus aldrig fordømt fest.
Chris: Det er rigtigt Joe. Du se Purim blev indført af jøderne og den selvsamme dag, at Satan er anlagt som en dag i døden for jøderne var vendt rundt som en sejrrig fest for dem. På samme måde kristne have frihed til at vælge at fejre Fantastisk gave af Guds Søn. Den kristne, som oprindeligt er oprettet festligholdelsen af den opfattelse sammen med fødslen af vores Frelser troede at det var rigtigt at ære Jesus på en hvilken som helst dag, og kristne gennem århundreder har aftalt. Som følge den 25 december den dag, at pagans worshiped solen på himlen, blev victoriously taget tilbage til Gud for at ære og tilbede Guds gave af sin søn. Sejr lys over mørket har været så fremragende, at den hedenske tilbede af solen på den 25 december har længe forsvundet.
Joe: Jeg har aldrig tænkt på det på den måde før. Men, Chris, jeg aldrig ville kunne fejre jul, for hvis jeg gjorde, ville jeg være disfellowshipped. Jeg ville blive smidt ud af riget.
Chris: Det er en meget drastisk handling. Kan vi drøfte i næste uge grundene til, at vagttårn skydes folk ud af kongeriget for at fejre jul?
Joe: Sure.
Chris: Joe, det vagttårn ikke ønsker deres tilhængere til at ære Kristi fødsel. Kan du fortælle mig, hvorfor?
Joe: Chris, det vagttårn siger i den 15 december 1994 spørgsmålet, "Hvis du er nu en voksen, har du nogensinde følt flov, når det i Deres tilstedeværelse, folk viste fotografier af dig som en baby? True, sådanne billeder minde dine forældre til deres glæde over din fødsel. Men nu, at du har en identitet af din egen, vil du ikke normalt foretrækker andre til at se dig som din er? I samme ånd, tror hvordan respektløst det er mod Kristus Jesus, når dem, der hævder, at være hans tilhængere bliver så opslugt hvert år i de hedenske traditioner i julen og i ære for en spædbarn, at de undlader at ære ham som konge. "
Chris: Det er en alvorlig gratis! Den vagttårn synes at antyde, at man ikke kan ære Kristi fødsel samt ære Jesus som konge. Men kristne rundt om i verden ære Jesus både for hans fødsel og for at blive konge. Er det virkelig en alvorlig sag for en Jehovas Vidner til at vælge at fejre jul?
Joe: Den vagttårn 15 december 1984 siger, at den alvorligste fare for at fejre jul er, at det kunne føre til at miste Guds favør, og vi som Jehovas Vidner erkender, at for at fejre jul ville betyde, at blive bragt for en retslig udvalg og derefter smidt ud.
Chris: Hvornår fejrer jul bliver sådan en alvorlig sag, at man kunne miste Guds favør og dermed miste evigt liv?
Joe: Jamen det vagttårn siger, at Gud aldrig meningen, at kristne bør fejre fødslen af sin søn. I deres øjne har det altid været forkert.
Chris: Har ikke vagttårn fejre julen for mange år siden?
Joe: Ja. Når vagttårn først blev dannet, grundlæggeren Charles T. Russell og den tidlige Jehovas Vidner alle fejrede jul.
Chris: Var det vagttårn forpligtet til at holde op med at fejre jul før Jehovah Gud godkendt i dem?
Joe: Nej vagttårn stadig fejrede jul i mange år efter Jesus plukkede dem i 1919 som den eneste organisationen på jorden, der var værdig til at være den trofaste slave.
Chris: Finder ikke, at sund hyklerisk? Den vagttårn fordømmer andre for at fejre Kristi fødsel men de siger, at de fandt Guds favor på det tidspunkt, hvor de var stadig fejrer jul. Hvis Jehovah ikke fordømme dem derefter, hvorfor skulle hans standarder ændre nu?
Joe: Jeg tror ikke, at Jehovas standarder ændres.
Chris: Så det vagttårn's standarder ændres. Når vagttårn fejrede jul gjorde de fejre på en anden måde så vi gør i dag?
Joe: Nej, de fejrede jul på samme måde, at de kristne fejrer i dag. De gav gaver, havde Julepynt, sang julen julesange. Den vagttårn selv aftalt med den kristne verden, at selv om den 25 december var ikke den dag, at Jesus blev født, det mest sandsynlige var datoen for undfangelsen, og det var så god en dag som alle til at deltage i med resten af verden for at fejre hans fødslen.
Chris: Hvad har ændret holdning omkring jul?
Joe: På et tidspunkt efter Rutherford blev præsident han besluttede, at for stor vægt blev lagt på Jesus og ikke nok om Jehovah og Kongeriget. Han forbød jul sige, at det var en hedensk fest.
Chris: Havde han forbyde alt, hvad der havde hedenske rødder ligesom den romerske kalender, bryllup mærkedage og bryllup ringe?
Joe: Nej, han er tilladt disse ting. De er ikke længere kigget på som hedenske dag, så de er okay.
Chris: Men Joe ingen, der tilbeder solen i himlen på 25 december længere. Hvorfor gjorde Rutherford stadig forbud jul?
Joe: Rutherford mente, at i julen tid, folk gav ære og tilbedelse til Jesus, og det tog væk fra tilbedelsen af Jehovah.
Chris: Hvad betyder Bibelen siger om hvordan Sønnen er at blive hædret? Se på John 5:23.
Joe: Der står "så alle kommer til at ære Sønnen, ligesom de ære Faderen. Han, der ikke ærer Sønnen ikke ære Faderen, der har sendt ham."
Chris: Så vi skal ære Sønnen, ligesom vi ære Faderen. Give ære til Jesus på et hvilket som helst tidspunkt af året ikke tage væk fra ære Faderen. Faktisk John 5:23 siger, at give ære til Jesus udmærkelse Fader.
Joe: Jeg har aldrig set, at vers før.

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