Et spørgsmål til debattens kristne
Der findes masser af falsknerier, som skal bevise Jesu historicitet. Blandt andet et berømt begravelsesskrin (en stenkiste, hvor man lagde den dødes knogler, efter at kødet var rådnet bort), som påstås at tilhøre Jesu broder, Jakob. Imidlertid er dette blevet påvist at være et falskneri- skrinet er ægte nok, men inskriptionen var en senere forfalskning.
Denne artikel starter ud med at omtale dette skrin (som altså i dag vides at være en forfalskning), men går så over til at nævne fundet af et andet skrin http://www.christiancourier.com/penpoints/tombVoice.htm
Selv efter ret omfattende googlesøgninger har ikke kunnet finde substantiel kritik af dette fund. Var det virkeligt nogle tidlige kristne (ca. 10 år efter kristi død) der lå begravet her? Indikationerne synes at pege i den retning, som dette viser:
On ossuary #7 there is this inscription, written in charcoal: Iesous iou, which Professor Sukenik suggested should be rendered “Jesus, woe!” – the latter term being interpreted as an expression of grief.
On the flat cover of ossuary #8 was this carved inscription in Greek, Iesous aloth, which again reflects the name “Jesus,” along with a presumed exclamation of mourning (p. 363).
The name “Jesus” is not to be associated with any of the remains interred within the tomb. Sukenik noted if the inscription “had pointed to the name of the person buried in the ossuary, we should expect after the name Jesus, the name of the father” – which was conspicuously absent. The professor thus argued that it must be concluded that the term aloth was not a name, but an exclamation of “woe” (p. 363).
Also on ossuary #8, each of the four sides contained a large cross written with charcoal. Sukenik commented:
“There can be no doubt that the presence and the size of the crosses on ossuary no. 8 suggest that they were placed there with some definite purpose. They were apparently drawn by the same person who wrote the words Iesous iou on the other ossuary [#7]” (p. 364).
The renowned archaeologist suggested that these crosses may be a “pictorial expression” for “He was crucified” (p. 365). While it once was claimed that the “cross” did not appear as a symbol of Christianity until the late second century A.D., further discovery has shown that the timeframe for this symbol now must be pushed back into the first century (Sukenik, p. 365).
This tomb has been dated in the first half of the first century A.D. (cir. A.D. 42/43), based on pottery fragments therein, as well as a coin belonging to the administration of Herod Agrippa I (cf. Acts 12:1) that was among the rubble.
Det eneste jeg har kunnet finde der kunne pege i retning af "snyd" er, at der var tale om et relativt lettilgængelig gravsted. Forskeren der stod for udforskningen var særdeles velrennomeret.
Er der nogen der kender andet til dette fund og kan kaste yderligere lys over det? Hvis det holder er der jo tale om et sensationelt fund- så det undrer mig jo en del, at man ikke har hørt mere til det!!!
Denne artikel starter ud med at omtale dette skrin (som altså i dag vides at være en forfalskning), men går så over til at nævne fundet af et andet skrin http://www.christiancourier.com/penpoints/tombVoice.htm
Selv efter ret omfattende googlesøgninger har ikke kunnet finde substantiel kritik af dette fund. Var det virkeligt nogle tidlige kristne (ca. 10 år efter kristi død) der lå begravet her? Indikationerne synes at pege i den retning, som dette viser:
On ossuary #7 there is this inscription, written in charcoal: Iesous iou, which Professor Sukenik suggested should be rendered “Jesus, woe!” – the latter term being interpreted as an expression of grief.
On the flat cover of ossuary #8 was this carved inscription in Greek, Iesous aloth, which again reflects the name “Jesus,” along with a presumed exclamation of mourning (p. 363).
The name “Jesus” is not to be associated with any of the remains interred within the tomb. Sukenik noted if the inscription “had pointed to the name of the person buried in the ossuary, we should expect after the name Jesus, the name of the father” – which was conspicuously absent. The professor thus argued that it must be concluded that the term aloth was not a name, but an exclamation of “woe” (p. 363).
Also on ossuary #8, each of the four sides contained a large cross written with charcoal. Sukenik commented:
“There can be no doubt that the presence and the size of the crosses on ossuary no. 8 suggest that they were placed there with some definite purpose. They were apparently drawn by the same person who wrote the words Iesous iou on the other ossuary [#7]” (p. 364).
The renowned archaeologist suggested that these crosses may be a “pictorial expression” for “He was crucified” (p. 365). While it once was claimed that the “cross” did not appear as a symbol of Christianity until the late second century A.D., further discovery has shown that the timeframe for this symbol now must be pushed back into the first century (Sukenik, p. 365).
This tomb has been dated in the first half of the first century A.D. (cir. A.D. 42/43), based on pottery fragments therein, as well as a coin belonging to the administration of Herod Agrippa I (cf. Acts 12:1) that was among the rubble.
Det eneste jeg har kunnet finde der kunne pege i retning af "snyd" er, at der var tale om et relativt lettilgængelig gravsted. Forskeren der stod for udforskningen var særdeles velrennomeret.
Er der nogen der kender andet til dette fund og kan kaste yderligere lys over det? Hvis det holder er der jo tale om et sensationelt fund- så det undrer mig jo en del, at man ikke har hørt mere til det!!!